The Healey family home was sold ( Oct 2010) the lounge/sunroom of the end of terrace house has been demolished. There is a high spec detached house that has been built and the original house refurbished ! - an elderly Bovey relative has died - thus ending over 120 years of the Bird Bovey presence in Kingskerswell - that's history !
The present Healey branch of our family do not wish to participate in this site and are no longer in friendly contact. They have declined to share anything with us.....
Message " Of course you can have a website if you so wish but you have to remember no one asked you to do it. It is your right to have a site built, however, it is also our right not to be included on it. I only looked at Spen's site once or twice & I have to say that allowing the photos on his site was a mistake. There is a belief in this family that everyone has a right to know everything" Sherryl Healey
This is not true!
=Thalia asked me to do it as she, like me in 2004, had become increasingly frustrated with Spencer not putting her material on his site
=The Campbell family asked me to do so that their family history, art, writings, poetry, political and other activities could be displayed in the Public domain
=Adrian gave permission to have his photos on the site
=Lynne donated large chunks of material on the Vegetarian and Education pages
=Newton sent in the Childs Family Tree and other Cornish material and photographs
=Sue sent Thalia material for inclusion on the site
=Lindsay provided material
=David Goldsmith donated his family tree and other material
=Pauline Childs carried out research at Torquay library
=Spencer sent Angus his webdisc asking him to build a new website - he was unable to do this through illness and asked me to do it on his behalf
=You and your daughter came to the house during the very early stages of building the site and made no objections at all
=Spencer finally admitted in 2009 after much anguish that all the photographs on his webdisc could be used on the site.
Janice
When the site went 'live' on Google you asked for an address to be taken off and a photograph of yourself and daughter on ' Cousins Today' removed - this was done immediately.
No other problems have been reported from you or the rest of the Healey family.
Family comments:
"The site looks very professional - you must have worked very hard The historical part of the site is great and there is a lot of information of use to researchers I am glad you are getting lots of nice feedback" Sherryl Healey.
"I appreciate all your hard work with the new website. It's very good & I'm sure the whole family is grateful." Spencer Childs
"From my point of view I consider your web site to be a work of great magnitude and effort."
Lyndsay Bird
" I find the website to be informative and have no problems with it, its nice to be able to point people to a site giving family background (:" Hamish Campbell
See Testimonials page for many more compliments......
click to viewThere was an agreement amongst the family ( so Janice thought ) not to inform older members of the site, although Ronald already knew of its existence before it went on line.
" I would be grateful for any further details related to Mum and her family. I can then decide on whether to show her any of the site or to not mention it at all." Lisa
"Just for your knowledge I was not the person who told Joy and was shocked and disgusted about how this came about. I only found out a few weeks ago when mum broke down in the kitchen. All I am now doing is trying to mend the damage done. I made the decision not to inform mum as she had no way of accessing the site and so would never know" Lisa
Ronald ' drew comfort' from looking at all the old family photos which brought back happy memories, especially the Band and Bird picture gallery pages
Simon felt Iris and John would not be concerned as they would not understand anyway.
Betty certainly was NOT told by Janice but her son Lyndsay , he must take full responsibility for this.
Joy (my mum) Ronald and Betty have asked for investigation into the moral and legal side of the site. Lisa
We would like to point out that all BMD and Parish records from 1500 to 2005 are now available on line for all to see. 1,000 's of people are now publishing the data in public available family trees or creating their own websites.
It appears that those who have made the most protests and hurtful remarks are those who have not looked at the site and its content. Those who have are full of praise.......
Slowly, we have begun to realise that anything we say or write on the internet may be
used against us at some embarassing future moment in time.........
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Then In 2008...
"You have upset the entire family. I am still talking to them all and will be very pleased never to hear from you again". Sherryl Healey
How defamatory ! We presume this is over the publication of this website, no corrections. amendments or explanations have ever been given from any of the UK Bird family, as to which sections and pages of this website have caused upset and offence, we have only received silences in answer to our communications, with rudeness, abuse and threats from certain sections of the 'old' Bird family and cyber bullying and hatred from the 'old' Childs family members, out of the great majority of appreciative family and friends living throughout the world......
We have received only love, friendship and support from the Goldsmiths and extended Bird families who really appreciate the website and have joined in enthusiastically. Together with 'new' members of the extended Bird and Childs families who are now contributing to the site.....All have been shocked and horrified at the recent attacks and have been most supportive. We have been accused of breaching Privacy - this does not exist today in the internet age.
We were not informed of the death of our Aunt ( our mother's sister) and had much nastiness in trying to find out details and the date/venue of her funeral
After the sad death of our uncle and enquiring about funeral arrangements we received this message on 27.04.2010
" Your rudeness exceeds all bounds. I am heartily pleased I am not your cousin and your three Healey cousins all said (in common with other members of the family) that I was NOT to tell you when the funeral is to be held. No more contact will be forthcoming.
As you say, thanks for the friendliness - I have been the only one prepared to write to you"
Sherryl Healey
( emails not marked 'confidential' )
COMMENTS:
John and Iris would be appalled at this divisiveness at his funeral (family member)
Nobody has a right to make a decision on behalf of a person who is no longer with us unless stated categorically so, which the departed would have wanted his family to know.
( family member )
Mimmo and Alastair are offended that you haven't been told with no reason given, was it John's wish? If so this should have been stated. Otherwise they have no right to make such a statement.
This is the cruelest thing ever ! Everyone has the right to attend the funeral of a loved one to mourn his/her passing and pay their respects.
What ever we do will be willfully misconstrued and used against us, lower your expectations and life is easier. Sadly "they are not worth it " ( A supportive family member )
To refuse to disclose the funeral date to close family members is beyond belief! Ring around the Crematorium or undertakers for information, easy to get the information. Let bygones be bygones, at least during the funeral. Anyone can attend a funeral whether invited or not. Funerals are not the place to air dirty laundry or partake in family feuds. It's probably best to remember the adage, "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all." If you've been estranged from the deceased or other relatives, your family will appreciate that you came to pay your respects. There's no need to say anything that might sully the occasion. Please don't sink to their level ! ( A supportive friend )
Great idea - done !! J
Janice-- You ROCK!!!! AA
You're way above them in intelligence, compassion and understanding - think of your International reputation - rise above such ignorance and stupidity and think about your achievements in life ! MW
The family must think you're an imbecile ! - Spencer did ( documents with Solicitor ) !
As no one in the family had contacted me directly I rang Joy to say how sad I was to hear of Uncle John's death. All she said was 'so was she', I hadn't heard from her for about two years, or anyone else in the family since Daddy's death 10 years ago, apart from the odd Christmas and birthday card.
Alastair
Once upon a time all this crap would be hidden, be unsaid, nods, winks, inuendoes, sudden silences when others overhear. It is now in the open we should all be more secure and less fearful, knowledge sets you free.
They are to themselves special as they know something no one else does.
The certainty of ignorance ( Family member )
The Internet is a very public place; once an email post has left your machine, you have no further control over where it will go. Be aware that e-mail is an inherently insecure form of communication
Defamatory emails must not be sent or forwarded. A disclaimer should be visible on your email if you do not wish it to be published. ‘This email is confidential and intended for the use of the intended recipient only'
Although web pages and email messages are protected as soon as created, copyright registration is needed before owners can bring suit. All messages not intended to be reproduced on a website should be marked Confidential by the author.
'Nothing weighs on us so heavily as a secret '.........
Jean de La Fontaine 1621 - 1695
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The Healey History pages receive many hits with comments such as
"Happy to share family with you - always exciting to find new family" Derek
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